“He’s always saying, ‘Go to the margins. “They need Confirmation, too.” What’s the SSPX presence in Cuba like? The SSPX will also be granted auxiliary Bishops. The biggest obstacle for the society’s reconciliation has been the statements on religious liberty in Vatican II’s declaration ... when the society’s superior general, Bishop Fellay, would not sign a doctrinal preamble presented by Rome. SSPX - USA District 439 Feb 17, 2018. -- Updated March 18, 2019 . But, whatever their other faults, they are Catholics. The SSPX doesn’t want reconciliation. option selection above at the current full price on the date of each renewal, until you cancel. Comments do not represent the views of Crisis magazine, its editors, authors, or publishers. People who think that way see these two groups in fundamental and irreconcilable opposition; they do not want the SSPX to reconcile with Rome. ROME (ChurchMilitant.com) - Does Rome's recent announcement — that priests from the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) have been granted special faculties to … The first duty of man toward God is to worship Him, to adore Him. Both his hope and his misgivings are well-founded, which is why Bishop Fellay and his counterparts in Rome never achieved full reunion. I am delighted that the Vatican and the Society of St. Pius X are talking again. And, not for nothing, the SSPX’s charter requires papal permission for a Superior General to serve more than two terms. We cannot just simply will it. Others, however, see him as the best hope for mending the rift between Latin Mass and Novus Ordo Catholics. No lengthy rants or block quotes. Read about our status with regard to Rome. And, so, you have the whole of the Catholic faith. Tagged as billing. 11:29). Failing that, any concessions granted by Rome must be taken as evidence that the SSPX is weakening in its defense of tradition. In it, Fr. The letter from the Pontifical Commission, The reason that granting special faculties in narrow circumstances won't reconcile the SSPX with the Church is, because as Pope Benedict XVI, Granting a special faculty to SSPX priests to witness marriages when diocesan priests aren't available isn't unique. About Learn more about the SSPX: our purpose, our founder, and our vital efforts on behalf of the priesthood and the traditional Latin Mass. Meanwhile, Fr. And there you are! Organization Open submenu of Organization. This Mass is not just liturgy, because it is genuine liturgy.   Yearly: $120 a year, To pay in advance without a subscription, click here Hungary’s Constitution Adds Protection for Children, Post-Election Special: All Hell Breaking Loose. “You know, I think that’s why Pope Francis likes us,” Fellay postulates. These interviews give the appearance that Fellay sees the Society as being out of communion with the Church, whereas Pagliarani sees the Church as being out of communion with the Society. Submit news to our tip line. The Vatican has offered the SSPX a personal prelature as the mechanism by which the Society of St. Pius X and Rome can be officially reconciled. All comments must directly address the article. I seriously doubt reconciliation will happen. The Angelus, Official publication of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), May, 2000: “This current of renewal has given birth to a new church within the bosom of the Catholic Church, to that which Msgr. Jun 29, 2016. “Deo Gratias”. About Learn more about the SSPX: our purpose, our founder, and our vital efforts on behalf of the priesthood and the traditional Latin Mass. Pope Benedict's tireless effort to heal a rift within the Church which began 24 years ago - and finally end the division between the SSPX and Rome - is one more sign that his paternal heart beats with the desire for unity revealed in the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Now there, too, you’re put in your place: begging forgiveness for your weakness, your sins, and for His help. This Article is taken from, and can be read in full at, FSSPX NEWS. Pope John Paul II, Yes. But the principle itself of having one or several bishops was granted by the Holy Father,” Pope John Paul II. Yet it’s difficult to see how any reconciliation will be possible under the SSPX’s new leadership. “You may be… Philippe Hérouard, auxiliary bishop of Lille. By Edward Pentin, National Catholic Register, March 30, 2019 Pope Francis appointed on Saturday a French Vatican official to oversee the care of religious […] There, they have built strong communities full of faithful young families, like the town of Saint Marys in Kansas. The SSPX Resistance is a loosely organized group of Traditionalist Catholics that grew out of the concern that the dialogue between the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the Holy See was leading the SSPX to accept the Second Vatican Council as a condition of the Society's recognition by Rome. 15 December, 2019. Williamson had been a thorn in the SSPX’s side at least since 2009, when he was convicted of Holocaust denial by a German court. We will not tolerate heresy, calumny, or attacks upon our Holy Mother Church or Holy Father. All comments may be removed at the moderators’ discretion. “It’s true that I consecrated four. Basilica Of Saint Paul-Without-The-Walls, Rome. “Small,” he tells me, “and mostly underground. The visit this past November of Father Davide Pagliarani, new Superior-General of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), to the Ecclesia Dei Commission in Rome has revived the everlasting matter of the relations between the Holy See and the society founded in 1970 by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, raising speculations on the possibility of having this body officially recognized by the Vatican. And so, in 1970, Lefebvre founded the Society of St. Pius X, a priestly fraternity devoted to upholding traditional doctrine and perpetuating the traditional Latin Mass, both of which Lefebvre and his followers believed were being abrogated (or suppressed) by liberals and modernists within the Church bureaucracy. Clearly, Fellay wasn’t reluctant to call out the Vatican—and even the Pope by name—when he thought it was in grave error. By clicking the "Continue" button, you agree to the ChurchMilitant.com Terms of Use and ChurchMilitant.com Privacy Policy. SSPX and Rome The SSPX is an authentic work of the Church, despite our difficult relations with the hierarchy. You also agree that your subscription will automatically renew monthly, quarterly or annually based upon your subscription The Society of St. Pius X is a work of the Church. Latin Mass, O f all the initiatives taken by Pope Francis, the most surprising is his latest effort to reconcile with Traditionalist Catholics—especially given their relentless criticisms of him as a progressive and even a “Modernist.”But the Pope has a generous heart. Until then, Rome considered them as invalid because they lacked necessary jurisdiction. Reconciliation Of The Old Chapel Of The Visitation, In Puy-en-Velay, On The Feast Of Our Lady Of Mount Carmel. trackback. The priests and faithful who abandoned the Society to follow Williamson have dubbed themselves the “SSPX Resistance.” It’s a relatively small faction, and it represents the most noxious tendencies in the traditionalist movement, being dominated by anti-Semites and conspiracy theorists. The SSPX the OP mentioned could be the SSPX that boke off from the sspx for them being “too close to Rome” or whatever 2 Likes Prodigal1984 June 9, 2019, 5:53pm Fr. This file is a new upload with a re-rendered audio track that will not sound garbled on mobile devices! Have a news tip? Lefebvre died in 1991, and Fellay was elected Superior General three years later. Reconciliation Of The Old Chapel Of The Visitation, In Puy-en-Velay, On The Feast Of Our Lady Of Mount Carmel. This Mass is the concentration of the Catholic spirit, of Catholic religion. It launched its investigation into the SSPX in 2019, as part of a wider criminal probe into clergy sex abuse. The consensus among Church-watchers was that the Society priests’ vote was deeply symbolic: they had no desire to further their negotiations with Rome. Join us LIVE for Post-Election Special tonight at 6:30 PM ET Reconciliation between Rome and SSPX imminent? The most significant breakthrough since Summorum came in 2017, when Pope Francis recognized the ability of SSPX priests to witness marriages. “Cardinal Ratzinger gave us the written authorization to have a member of the Society as a bishop,” Lefebvre later explained. January 30, 2017 Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, different religion, disconcerting, episcopate, Francis, General Catholic, Latin Mass, priests, Restoration, SSPX, the struggle for the Church, Tradition. A reader asked me the following question: Hi P^3 Help me straighten out a friend, can you please get me the Vatican documentation saying that the Bishops were not guilty of excommunication, my friend thinks the Vatican still considered all guilty but removed the excommunication of the 4 Bishops as a sign of good will. A bit of sunlight appeared to slip between the two leaders last month, however, when SSPX/News published an interview with Fr. Muller's Farewell Gift... "Cardinal" Müller throws Monkey Wrench into SSPX-Rome Reconciliation: Vatican now demands Full Acceptance of Vatican II and Novus Ordo "Mass" (photo credit: Andreas Arnold/dpa/Alamy Live News) Although he has just been relieved from his post as Prefect of the Congregation for the Destruction of the Faith and the Ecclesia Dei Commission, "Cardinal" Gerhard … Because the SSPX has been nebulous for years on the true status of Vatican II and the New Mass (Fr. But the reconciliation of course has to be based on a common understanding. This state of affairs ended when the society led a large pilgrimage to Rome for the "Great Jubilee" of 2000. Of course, whether the Pope would have responded to such a request one way or the other is questionable. Catholic Herald UK: SSPX Gains Marriage "Regularization" in 40 American Dioceses. The SSPX is now understood to have the Vatican’s draft of an agreement to sign to formalize regularization, but wants to make sure it has secure guarantees. Bishop Bernard Fellay, They want Rome, or what they call the “Conciliar Church,” to convert to what they call “The True Faith.” In other words, the SSPX denies that the Catholic Church has the Faith, teaches that the SSPX has the Faith, and wants the Catholic Church to convert to SSPX-ism. It should be noted that Fellay and Pagliarani deny any difference between them on how best to approach reconciliation with the Holy See. I stopped going to SSPX because they are disobedient to the pope. Go to the suffering. In 2012, another Écône bishop, Richard Williamson, was expelled from the Society. Basilica Of Saint Paul-Without-The-Walls, Rome. If you see a comment that doesn’t meet our standards, please flag it so a moderator may remove it. In other words, if there is not a common understanding, what we reconcile will result in all sort of conflicts and difficulties. (He has since consecrated two other men as well.). Crisis isn’t responsible for the content of the comments box. Nothing Rome has done since that tine has carried with it the Sanctifying Grace of God. “Now, when I’m doing exactly the same thing I have done for thirty years,” he said during his homily; “all of a sudden I am suspended a divinis. The Pope will chose between three names of Bishops submitted by the SSPX as the head of the personal prelature. That June, he consecrated four of his priests as bishops in Écône, Switzerland, among them the 30-year-old Bernard Fellay. Instead, Fr. After leaving the Society, Williamson affiliated with the SSPX Resistance, who oppose the Society's potential reconciliation with Rome. The SSPX doesn’t want reconciliation. You are drawn into the adoration toward God. © Copyright 2020 Crisis Magazine. You are not signed in as a Premium user; we rely on Premium users to support our news reporting. Crisis Magazine is a project of Sophia Institute Press. Reconciliation between Rome and SSPX imminent? It is speculated that the group will also reject these conditions. The difference between the two men, it seems to me, is this: Bishop Fellay sees the Society as a vanguard of orthodoxy and orthopraxy. In 2013, Francis gave a surprise phone call to Mario Palmaro, a traditionalist Catholic writer who the Pope had heard was gravely ill. Schools See a list of SSPX schools in the US District: their contact information and the grade levels taught in each school; Retreat Centers See a list of Retreat Centers in the US District with addresses and phone numbers. Muller's Farewell Gift... "Cardinal" Müller throws Monkey Wrench into SSPX-Rome Reconciliation: Vatican now demands Full Acceptance of Vatican II and Novus Ordo "Mass" (photo credit: Andreas Arnold/dpa/Alamy Live News) Although he has just been relieved from his post as Prefect of the Congregation for the Destruction of the Faith and the Ecclesia Dei Commission, "Cardinal" Gerhard … Pagliarani’s preoccupation with the Second Vatican Council and his excoriation of Francis is beyond anything that passed from Archbishop Lefebvre’s own lips. The doctrinal discussions between the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the Holy See — which commenced in 2009 to study such matters as the concept of Tradition, the interpretation of Vatican II and the Council's treatment of religious freedom — have arrived at what both parties agree is a … One almost expects him to claim that original sin itself is a product of Vatican II. If you have a gift code you would like to redeem, click here. Bogle stressed that the SSPX and the sacraments administrated by them, including marriages and confessions, have been formally recognized by Francis. Msgr. Read about our status with regard to Rome. In any case, the longer the matter drags on, the harder it will be - which I think is why the Pope was hoping for a quick reconciliation and why he was prepared to be more than generous in the beginning. ROME (ChurchMilitant.com) - Does Rome's recent announcement — that priests from the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) have been granted special faculties to validly witness marriages when diocesan priests aren't available — mean the SSPX is now reconciled with Rome? SSPX Close to Reconciliation with Rome – Wonderful, Yes, But Is This the Right Time? As Bishop Fellay said, they’re willing to “go to the margins.” In fact, they’ve lived on the margins for over half a century. Pope Francis and Bishop Fellay hold out olive branch Discussion in ' One Bread, One Body - Catholic ' started by Michie , May 18, 2016 . The General Chapter voted instead for Fr. But Fr. Cancel at any time to avoid future In 2009, in order to initiate a movement toward reconciliation, Pope Benedict remitted the excommunication of the bishops in anticipation of further talks. “Deo Gratias”. If one has to do so, then I would say that one may go in good conscience and receive Communion at such a Mass. This Article is taken from, and can be read in full at, FSSPX NEWS. Vatican II. Author: Dnalor 01. The greatest attraction of the Church in the reformation of criminals is its clear and ancient dogma—including the Latin Mass central to SSPX—so this would be a wonderful event if it happens, which is still unknown at this point, but there is reason for hope, as reported by Catholic Culture. If one has to do so, then I would say that one may go in good conscience and receive Communion at such a Mass. Fellay is a trad among trads, by far the most prominent bishop to demand the Tridentine Mass be restored as the ordinary form of the Latin Church. trackback. Archbishop Lefebvre was a missionary priest in Africa. When you place your order, your Church Militant Premium membership will be activated. And it was largely thanks to decades of patient negotiation on the part of Bishop Fellay. Keywords: Society of St. Pius X, SSPX, Bishop Fellay, Pope Benedict, Unity, Unification WASHINGTON, DC (Catholic Online) - A senior official for the Society of Saint Pius X, the traditionalist group that broke with the Roman Catholic Church, has poured some cold water on excitement that a reconciliation may occur with the group very soon. Both the Vatican and the Society of St. Pius X have confirmed that Pope Francis met in early April at the Vatican with the Superior General of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), Bishop Bernard Fellay. In order to make this clear once again: Until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers — even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty — do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church. Wikimedia Commons. Rorate Caeli has graciously translated a commentary by Fr. Rome discouraged all laypeople from seeking the sacraments from SSPX priests, and the order entered a state known as canonical irregularity. Raymond Cardinal Burke told InfoVaticana that “what the Pope is saying is that the priests in this society, when they witness marriages, are exercising jurisdiction in the Roman Catholic Church.” In other words, Society priests were already being given unconditional authorization to act as representatives of the Church. ", It ends the letter by saying that granting the faculty for SSPX priests to witness marriages in special circumstances will help facilitate "the process towards full institutional regularization. I pray for it, and I hope that it will come about. This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially doctrinal in nature and concern primarily the acceptance of the Second Vatican Council and the post-conciliar magisterium of the Popes. Licence (CC-BY-SA 3.0). Source: fsspx.news “All you that are burdened, I will refresh you – reficiam vos – and you shall find rest to your souls, for my yoke is sweet and my burden light” (Mt. ... God withdrew His Sanctifying Grace from Rome and placed it with the SSPX. There are about 650 priests in the Society of St. Pius X serving approximately one million souls around the world, over half of whom are under 18. An excerpt. No longer able to ordain his seminarians licitly, the aging Archbishop began to suspect the Vatican intended to starve the Society of priests until it simply faded into nothingness. Shortly thereafter, he celebrated Mass for 10,000 supporters in France. Despite constant contention the apparent differences arouse, this story should rather be viewed as a … Davide Paglarani, Rorate Caeli has graciously translated a commentary by Fr. How can it be…?”. The Holy See press office issued a statement on April 4 saying Pope Francis and Bishop Fellay had met on April 2 in the Vatican. “The ball is in their court,” a Vatican source told the Register May 12. The Resistance views Bishop Fellay as an agent of the “modernist” Vatican attempting to weaken the SSPX from within. All rights reserved. - Updated By Tradical. Bishop Fellay, the Superior General of the Society of St Pius X was in Rome meeting with Cardinal William Levada. SSPX and Rome The SSPX is an authentic work of the Church, despite our difficult relations with the hierarchy. The Society carried on its work as usual until 2005, when their old sparring partner Cardinal Ratzinger ascended the Chair of St. Peter as Benedict XVI. I seriously doubt reconciliation will happen. Pope Benedict's tireless effort to heal a rift within the Church which began 24 years ago - and finally end the division between the SSPX and Rome - is one more sign that his paternal heart beats with the desire for unity revealed in the Sacred Heart of Jesus. For nearly half a century, priests in virtually every diocese in the world had been punished by Rome or by their bishops for celebrating the Tridentine Mass without the “proper faculties.” Benedict retroactively declared that no such faculties were necessary, except those conferred upon every priest of the Roman Church upon ordination. SSPX, 2 Likes. Talks between the CDF and the society resumed, however, in 2014. August 23, 2019 + JMJ. Progress came slowly, but it came. fsspx.news/en – This week we look at Cardinal Joseph Zen of the Catholic China Underground, a secret ordination in a concentration camp of Dachau in 1944, and the 160th anniversary at Lourdes. So, I rejoice every time a Tridentine Mass is celebrated anywhere in the world…. He pressed them for permission to consecrate a new bishop. My companion asked if I was uncomfortable and I said, "they don't bother me". That isn’t to say he did the right thing—only that the SSPX for decades presented the only organized effort to preserve the old Mass. He's the author of The Reactionary Mind (Regnery, 2021) and the former editor of Crisis Magazine. https://www.crisismagazine.com/2019/sspx-back-to-the-bad-old-days Full reconciliation seemed inevitable. A group of Society priests quickly split from Lefebvre and formed a new order in full communion with Rome: the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, or FSSP. Prodigal1984 June 9, 2019, 5:53pm #13. This is a far cry from Bishop Fellay’s diplomatic tone and nuanced understanding of the ongoing crisis of Catholic tradition. “The faithful,” he explains. Canon 1112, The larger problem is what Pope Benedict XVI laid out, The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on, Have a news tip? The Church's teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 — this must be quite clear to the Society. Did Rome believe that the Bishops of the SSPX incurred the penalty of excommunication? “Following the same pastoral outlook which seeks to reassure the conscience of the faithful, despite the objective persistence of the canonical irregularity in which for the time being the Society of St. Pius X finds itself, the Holy Father, following a proposal by the … The precondition for a full reconciliation is the signing of a doctrinal preamble in order to guarantee a full agreement in the essential questions of the Faith. Amoris, he says, is “one of the results that, sooner or later, was to occur as a result of the principles laid down by the Council.” He also compared Amoris to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, saying that, “humanly speaking, the damage is irreparable.”. Traditionalists, In it, Fr. Marco Tosatti has reported that the SSPX reconciliation is in fact in the works, and that the SSPX are looking to purchase the above church complex as their headquarters of their personal prelature. It was born providentially in the Church and for the Church. To be sure, many in the Church’s upper echelons are ambivalent towards Fellay. The Society of St. Pius X has clarified its constant position vis-à-vis Rome after a meeting of major superiors of the Society this week. Submit news to our tip line. CXX, Jan-Jun 1949), but that he does have the power to perpetuate a schism. Go to the poor.’ Well, we do! For years after the 1988 consecrations, there was little if any dialogue between the SSPX and the Holy See. Bishop Fellay, the Superior General of the Society of St Pius X was in Rome meeting with Cardinal William Levada. The Resistance have the full deposit of the Faith, which they will preserve until the rest of the Church sees the error of its ways and abandons the Second Vatican Council. Benelli himself called ‘ the conciliar church ,’ whose limits and paths are very difficult to define… They continued teaching the old doctrines and celebrating the old Mass as though nothing had changed. It was as though an exiled politician had suddenly been given the authority to sign trade agreements on his country’s behalf. Hence, The French Revolution Failed. In 2007, Benedict published his motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, which established that Catholic priests are “permitted to celebrate the Sacrifice of the Mass following the typical edition of the Roman Missal, which was promulgated by Blessed John XXIII in 1962 and never abrogated, as an extraordinary form of the Church’s Liturgy.” Then, in 2009, he lifted the excommunications on the four surviving SSPX bishops. January 30, 2017 Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, different religion, disconcerting, episcopate, Francis, General Catholic, Latin Mass, priests, Restoration, SSPX, the struggle for the Church, Tradition. In a statement emailed to subscribers of his newsletter Saturday, Williamson said many people thought his presence in the SSPX was "the single biggest obstacle" to the SSPX's reconciliation with Rome. June 25, 2019. Summorum wasn’t only important because it promoted the widespread use of the Latin Mass: it also acknowledged Lefebvre’s concern that elements within the Church bureaucracy had attempted to suppress it, and nearly succeeded. Davide Pagliarani, a priest from the Society’s relatively small Italian district. Confidential Report Also Says that Rome Has Given Faculties to a former FSSP Priest to Serve as a Priest in the SSPX. What happened next varies depending on whom you ask. Benedict XVI, Rome; Worldwide; Tradition; Analysis; Media; You are here: Home; News & Events; Month of the Sacred Heart: Heart of Jesus, Our Peace and Reconciliation . Get briefed on today's top stories with Michael Voris. Pope Francis has fully regularized the Society of St Pius X (SSPX), James Bogle, the ex-president of Una Voce International, told Gloria.tv (video below). You’re nourished from beginning to end. Bishop Richard Williamson, in his latest blog entry "Benedict's Ecumenism III", continues to undermine any possible reconciliation between Rome and Econe.I mention this, not that this man has any authority (see, Mgr. But in the hysteria that will certainly follow a formal announcement, what is truly important will likely be lost in the Church’s internal partisan politics. However, pixies don't see things that way. Clearly, the Coetus didn’t get their way. They’re still badly persecuted by the communists.”, I make a crack about the Vatican’s concordat with China, which he politely ignores. “After that he said to one of our priests, ‘You know, they have treated them badly’.” By they, of course, Pope Francis meant the Vatican bureaucracy; them is the Society. The SSPX can avail itself of Rome's offer only by submitting to the much discussed "Doctrinal Preamble" that was proposed in Fall of 2011 and presumably will mean a consensus on some of key points of doctrine surrounding Vatican II. Regardless of one’s view of the Écône consecrations, Lefebvre’s concerns about the Latin Mass being suppressed were valid. In a 2011 interview, he made it clear that the SSPX was not prepared to compromise on what it sees as its mission in order to achieve regularization by Rome. Discussions between the Holy See and the Society of Saint Pius X towards an eventual reconciliation have been ongoing. We should hope for all men to be in full communion with Rome; surely that includes “Lefebvrists.” Surely we would benefit from their witness to the traditional Faith and ancient rites of the Church. Hence, The French Revolution Failed. The Vatican indicated in its announcement Tuesday that the SSPX isn't reconciled with the Church. Published on Jun 14, 2019 A return to the email inbox on this episode of What Catholics Believe: • If Fr. In spite of this initiative, many who support SSPX see the recent meeting as "Rome setting a trap." As the bishop himself told me last year, The attachment to the Mass of centuries is a guarantee of community – and, more than that, of being the Church. The SSPX was founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1970 to form priests, as a response to what he described as errors that had crept into the Church following the Second Vatican Council. Everyone knows about the Council, but that’s only half the story.”. This means that hope for a reconciliation of the SSPX with the Church has … (photo: YouTube) Edward Pentin Blogs June 29, 2016 Confirmations in the US District of the SSPX - 2019 . Click here: Church Militant. Claud Barthe on the latest round of SSPX/Rome talks. Barthe draws the right distinction between being in “full communion” (which the Society is) and being in a state of “imperfect reconciliation.” (Some, such as myself, prefer the expression “canonical irregularity,” though they effectively mean the same thing.) SSPX Issues Statement Clarifying Its Position With Rome Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior general of the Society of St. Pius X. Wikimedia Commons. In light of this situation, it is my intention henceforth to join the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei — the body which has been competent since 1988 for those communities and persons who, coming from the Society of Saint Pius X or from similar groups, wish to return to full communion with the Pope — to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. On February 18, 1971, Archbishop Lefebvre received a laudatory approbation from the Congregation for the Clergy from Cardinal Wright, Prefect of that dicastery, and signed by the Secretary Pope Francis and Bishop Fellay hold out olive branch Discussion in ' One Bread, One Body - Catholic ' started by Michie , May 18, 2016 . The Cloisters. Still, no pastor stands by while a soul is lost. It received official approval from the Bishop of Fribourg on November 1, 1970. 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