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You missed the old Bowser die-cast plus a good many brass models. The main reason you will never see the only remaining Challenger on a fan trip here in the east is strictly for monetary reasons. The RailKing Big Boy, from its pilot to the rear of its tender excluding the coupler, is 27.5 inches long or 110 feet in O scale (80 scale feet for the locomotive, 34 scale feet for the tender). (I would very much enjoy a review of the upcoming new Lionel SP AC-9 2-8-8-4 - my favorite articulated; I have the "old" TMCC version.). Just my 2 cents worth, I spent the rest on trains. HO Scale MTH HO 4-8-8-4 Big Boy (Original) Steam Engine w/Proto-Sound 3E+ Union Pacific; October 29, 2014 - M.T.H. My biggest pet peeve with HO scale articulateds is the pivoting rear drivers. 4014 next month. ... MTH 4-8-8-4 Big Boy Union Pacific 4005 DCC w/Sound/Smoke HO scale. So it was towed to it's now home in Pa. Way back in the day when  they were built the rail situation was much different and the lines of the PRR and many other railroads east of the Mississippi were more the adequate to handle the weight of the behemoth. Most of the brass versions of the brass 4-8-8-4s were very detailed, and were extremely strong pullers. 1 Marklin Trix (nice, but not to scale-too short) Page 1 M.T.H. Phone: 718-436-7072. Got all three Big Boys out on the rails for the first time today and the sound with three of these all going at the same time was something to behold. These MTH Big Boys are a lot of fun to operate and look great on the larger radius curves, 0-82 and larger. A big engine like the Big Boy really needs O-99 or higher to look its best. For availability see 'Find it locally' tab. All locomotives will include our first-ever HO steaming quillable whistle feature as part of the Proto-Sound 3.0 onboard digital sound and command control package. Note: if you proceed, you will no longer be following, $12.00 Per 12 Months, plus tax if applicable. 1921 Tinplate is now 100 years old! Anyone who can confirm or deny any of this is welcome to chime in. The Big Boy is not my thing, but I always enjoy your reviews, so I not only watched this one but went back and hit the highlights of your Lionel Vision Big Boy review. Product Information. TrainWorld® 751 McDonald Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11218. Just months before Pearl Harbor, the American Locomotive Company delivered the first Big Boy to the Union Pacific Railroad. I believe you are some what correct but not completely. Email: Orders@Trainworld.com HO scale 4-8-8-4 Big Boy Locomotive 3. level 2 HO Scale MTH HO 4-8-8-4 Big Boy (Original) Steam Engine w/Proto-Sound 3.0. I have not seen their HO offering in person, but they claim it goes around an 18" radius curve. 08/03/2006 MTH One Gauge Big Boy w/Protosound 2 - Protosound 3 - DCS - 70-3009-1 - 70-3026-1. That's one fancy machine! Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step. So, I thought I'd write one up for my MTH Big Boy. Great deals on Ho Union Pacific Big Boy. Yea! The whistle steam on that is interesting, shooting forward. Curious. Keep it up; enjoyed it. This is the view topic advanced forum page. One of these I'll build a layout in a space that allows for much wider curves than the O-72 I've got now. Watch the video to see their performance. More than likely it looks the same as MTH. I have searched high and low for a real review of this locomotive, and the closest I can find is the MTH Challenger review that is on this board. Fast & Free shipping on many items! Expand your options of fun home activities with the largest online selection at eBay.com. RE: MTH Big Boy Note, you will want to test the inside wheel power pickup with direct contact to the brush away and at the same time keep the brush from making contact with the driver because power will pass through the connecting rods to the front wheel power pickup which will give a false reading of ok continuity. It's my understanding that the only rail that was heavy enough to support the weight and downward pounding of the drivers of a Big Boy was west of the Mississippi? We're sorry. By popular request, I finally got around to reviewing the MTH Big Boy. Product Information. 4 Rivarossi. $699.99. The crew actually got the boiler fired up and felt confident that the big beast would make the trip however the DOT officials didn't feel the same way and was due in part to the size of the rails in Vermont where she used to live. You must be signed in to continue. The "real" 2023070 Lionel Junction Christmas set with lighted Fastrack. The O guage version does not have a pivoting rear driver set, it goes around a 36" radius (O 72) curve. While the Big Boy is often cited as the biggest steam locomotive ever built, in fact it is not. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, $599.95. We feature beginner and advanced help on all model railroading scales, including layout track plans, model railroad product reviews, model train news, and model railroad forums. I believe that the BLI and the MTH used the same mold as the. If you choked a Smurf what color would he turn? In browsing around I came across this one with the Big Boy. Electric Trains is a great-looking model of one of the most recognizable locomotives to run on North American rails. One of the largest and most powerful steam locomotives ever built is now available in HO scale equipped with a top-of-the-line Digital Command Control sound decoder. All, The new Broadway Limited Paragon 3 Union Pacific fully restored #4014 in a side by side challenge of the MTH Proto Sound 3 Union Pacific #4012. Roads such as the B&O, N&W, D&H & the Clinchfield   all had big articulated locomotives  such as Challengers Y3's Y6's all not as large as a big boy of course but all still requires just as heavy a rail. Ought to be interesting seeing one of those monsters pull a 100 car coal drag. Is that top loop O-72? Did you have to modify your layouts since buying your Big Boys to allow for this? the others that you have on your list. Email: Orders@Trainworld.com I do not currently own the BLI, or MTH, but do own one or more of. Does the real Big Boy do that I wonder? A total of five different cab numbers are being offered in standard DC 2-Rail and AC/DC 3-Rail configurations. The Big Boy is not my thing, but I always enjoy your reviews, so I not only watched this one but went back and hit the highlights of your Lionel Vision Big Boy review. Just like the prototype, Rivarossis HO scale Union Pacific 4-8-8-4 Big Boy is well equipped to pull long freight drags up and over the mountain ranges. Yes, this is 3 rail O but I thought some of you might enjoy a peek at this interesting little steamer from MTH in HO. A big engine like the Big Boy really needs O-99 or higher to look its best. For availability see 'Find it locally' tab. Reply; 1 2. If anyone gets a chance to get one,    DO IT! The Bowser, and most brass had the rear engine mounted ridgidly, I do not currently own the BLI, or MTH, but do own one or more of, I believe that the BLI and the MTH used the same mold as the, My Big Boy collection currently consist of, 1 Marklin Trix (nice, but not to scale-too short), 1 Bowser-----(Strongest puller, least detail even with the detail kit), 1 Tenshodo (brass) (not to scale-too long). HO Big Boy Arriving In January With Smoking Whistle December 18, 2019 - M.T.H. The boiler overhang on your curves was pretty funny. I hope you enjoy it. MR subscribers, check out the new All-Time Digital Archives. They have several with different MTH HO models running. Thanks for the review Eric. What struck me was the detailing on the Lionel version - quite a bit better than the MTH. I will have to compare both vids of yours Eric, and see if they both shoot forward and see if the real one does as well. Thanks much. The absolutely, positively, best HO scale model of a Big Boy was an early Tenshodo rebuilt (the term Kitbashed hadn't been invented then) by a gentleman named Darwin, ... the MTH Big Boy is a winner in my book. A few points to consider about that very fine review: 1) If MTH is truly trying to represent the 4014 AFTER it is restored as an oil burner, then those firebox ash pans on the outside of the firebox, on both sides should have also been eliminated along with the large red hand wheels. I will stick with my PCM with the Loksound 3.5 decoder. Nice review as always Eric. So...how many different versions of the UP Big Boys does that now make in recent years? (That's why you will never see any existing 4-8-8-4 excursions to the east coast.) 11/22/2006 MTH One Gauge Big Boy w/Protosound 2 - Protosound 3 - DCS - 70-3009-1 - 70-3026-1. The real Big Boy is 124 feet long (85 feet for locomotive, 39 feet for the tender). It should be pretty much the same quality as the BLI Big Boy, but it comes with MTH's DCS electronics. Yeah. Although it's a few years older, the Marklin/Trix Big Boy is the best of all the non-brass Big Boys. I paid less for my 1959 Corvette in 1965! Yeah. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for MTH HO Union Pacific 4-8-8-4 Big Boy Steam Engine - 80-3282-1 at the best online prices at eBay! My Big Boy collection currently consist of . I have over a thousand real world miles on mine and haven't really had many major issues. All that aside it was a common practice to deliver a new locomotive as described in some cases all depending on the railroad and where the finished product was going to be delivered. There was no "magic hand" in the sky to pick them up and set them in Wyoming so I would "assume" they got there by.................rail! The UP's Department of Research and Mechanical Standards had designed the locomotive for a specific task: to pull a 3600-ton train unassisted over the Wasatch Mountains in Utah. Eric, have you tried to control the smoking whistle with the app? Phone: 718-436-7072. In your video at (26:10) it really demonstrates the overhang these articulated's have on curves! Two impressive new HO scale models of the Union Pacific Big Boy 4-8-8-4 are vying for our attention. HO Scale MTH HO 4-8-8-4 Big Boy (Modified) Steam Engine w/Proto-Sound 3.0. Finally, you'll never receive email notifications about content they create or likes they designate for your content. $649.95. Thats one of the problems with a big boy there really aren't many layouts where one can justify running a bog boy. I should be - I had forgotten that the Lionel Vision version (vision version?) Electric Trains has begun shipping its 4-8-8-4 Big Boy die-cast HO steam engine. You've just purchased the most feature-rich and technically advanced HO Steam locomotive ever produced! Here is a MTH 80-3189-1 HO Scale Union Pacific 4-8-8-4 Big Boy Steam Locomotive and Tender #4014. If the track east of the Mississippi wasn't heavy enough, I'm guessing that the Big Boys were partially dismantled and shipped by rail to Omaha, where they were reassembled. I can tell you that the O scale Big Boy looks really good (MTH). Made by Athearn and Precision Craft Models, the models are excellent replicas of the world's biggest steam locomotive, a behemoth that most modelers consider to be the epitome of steam. MTH HO UP Big Boy 4-8-8-4, Excursion Version With Oil Tender, With MTH Proto-Sound 3.0, #4014 MTH Item #: 80-3287-1 Locomotive Feature. costs as much as a used Ford. The detail is outstanding and the performance is spectacular. 14 watching. I think they made an improvement with the dual smoke stacks over the design on the challenger's stacks. Digital Control System (DCS) for realistic lights, sounds, and smoke on DC, DCS, or Digital Command Control (DCC) layouts. Lionel only made the challenger in HO, and I have a hard time keeping mine in running order. While the Big Boy is often cited as the biggest steam locomotive ever built, in fact it is not. Probably. Crank it up to 50% power and it will give me, well just sat I am happy. 2 Athearn Genesis. Die-Cast Boiler and Chassis Die-Cast Tender Body Authentic Paint Scheme Detailed Locomotive Trucks Engineer and Fireman Figures Metal Handrails and Decorative Bell Decorative Metal Whistle RP25 Metal Wheels I happened to catch a clip on a N&W J class passenger train that turned out to be a MTH HO model that was running on a really nicely scenicked layout. I'm personally looking forward to the BLI 20th Century Dreyfuss Hudson. Eric, Thanks for another fantastic review. non-scale curves that the prototype would not be able to accomplish. I have several two of which are brass left over form my old UP layout but i will have one at least sitting in my yard awaiting orders. Free shipping for many products! HO 4-8-8-4 Big Boy Steam Engine (Ps3) ENGINEER’S GUIDE Congratulations! All of the models you mentioned, had rear engines that were allowed to pivot so they could negotiate tight. The model includes the M.T.H. As the PRR had ordered Challengers to pull coal drags. 2) Again, pertaining to the 4014 as an oil burner after restoration/overhaul, the sides of the cab reflect the lettering for a coal burner, i.e the "MB" which indicates a Standard MB series coal stoker. This was true when the Bog Boy that was on display up in Vermont which now resides at Steam Town was moved. It smoked a little too........... Great review, as always, Eric. PCM. Hand Held Wireless DC Controller Upon inspecting the locomotive and tender note the many details that have been incorporated in its con-struction. Is that top loop O-72? I might try my smoke unit some day. Yes, but not under steam with a crew -- towed dead as part of a regular freight train and with the running gear only partly assembled. What struck me was the detailing on the Lionel version - quite a bit better than the MTH. The MTH Big Boy, despite all its strange issues (I've rewired half the locomotive, it seems) runs darn well. Did you have to modify your layouts since buying your Big Boys to allow for this? I will have to check with my friend the resident PRR historian to verify if they ever took delivery i do believe they did but don't quote me just yet. Front pilot spring replacement: One of the first things I noticed upon first inspecting the new MTH Big Boys was the front and rear engine sets #1 drivers had very little weight and were only just making contact with the track. Subscriber & Member Login. Show us what you have! This engine is remarkable in more ways than one. One of these I'll build a layout in a space that allows for much wider curves than the O-72 I've got now. 3) All the beautiful detail in the cab, on the back head, STILL reflects a coal burning 4000 class locomotive. When you block a person, they can no longer invite you to a private message or post to your profile wall. MTH's Big Boy is BLI's model (they got it from a lawsuit). Replies and comments they make will be collapsed/hidden by default. Available in accurate early or late versions, the HO scale Norfolk & Western class J from M.T.H. Mine is creeping along now with 50 cars at 3% power up grade. HeritageFleet1. Thanks, Eric I really don't get much out of the smoking whistle on either of them (but I'm one of those "swinging whistle" - Meh... heretics). Locomotive and tender features In your video at (26:10) it really demonstrates the overhang these articulated's have on curves! Their challange is to overcome the 1.5% grade of Ranger on the Texas & Pacific RR. Why can't you run a Big Boy on an NYC layout, they were built by ALCO in New York and had to be "delivered" somehow. Love to see a video of it at speed. HO scale tender with full electronics package installed 4. 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